I cannot remember offhand, but Oedipus makes the prophecy about himself come true by trying to avoid it.Clemsy wrote:How many great stories start with a prophecy that the father figure (king) makes sure comes true by trying to avoid it?
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That story starts with a prophecy to the father that his son would kill him. Then Oedipus tries to avoid killing his father as the Oracle told him he would.nandu wrote:I cannot remember offhand, but Oedipus makes the prophecy about himself come true by trying to avoid it.Clemsy wrote:How many great stories start with a prophecy that the father figure (king) makes sure comes true by trying to avoid it?
Nandu.
Baba Yaga points to the (IMO) feminine root of all mystery. She is not much different from many of the terrifying forms of the Goddess available in India....Although she is mostly portrayed as a terrifying old crone, Baba Yaga can also play the role of a helper and wise woman. The Earth Mother, like all forces of nature, though often wild and untamed, can also be kind.
In her guise as wise hag, she sometimes gives advice and magical gifts to heroes and the pure of heart. The hero or heroine of the story often enters the crone's domain searching for wisdom, knowledge and truth. She is all-knowing, all seeing and all-revealing to those who would dare to ask.
She is said to be a guardian spirit of the fountain of the Waters of Life and of Death.
Baba Yaga is the Arch-Crone, the Goddess of Wisdom and Death, the Bone Mother. Wild and untamable, she is a nature spirit bringing wisdom and death of ego, and through death, rebirth.
This article from the CG Jung Page might interest you: Eating Disorders and Myths. A couple fairy tales are included as well.sharibanflynn wrote:From over 20 years of experienceas a clinical psychotherapist working for three consultant psychiatrist with psychiatric outpatients... I consider Anorexia also to be an adverse response to an over baring mother as the child's suppressed rebellion by puking (mother’s) food back.. an attempt to take back self control .. but sure its not a conclusion based upon research.
Well... she's interesting.sharibanflynn wrote:Nandu,
There is a similar figure here in Ireland called Sile na gig.. worth a google
I have read this book, Nandu, and for the most part I like it since the point of view and orientation are decidedly female when it comes to the life journeys of woman and girls. In contrast, what has typically been available to women is a feminization, so to speak, of the male-oriented, masculine hero's journey which is not always nor necessarily a good fit for the female experience. Pinkola Estes puts "the female" back into "the feminine"...in my opinion, of course.nandu wrote:I am currently reading Women Who Run With the Wolves by Clarissa Pinkola Estes - a feminist look at fairy tales. I must confess that I am not very impressed. Cindy? Shariban? Have you seen it?
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