Basic Concepts: The Shadow

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jufa wrote: When observing anything from objective conjunctions based upon surmised subjective effects, is evidence imperfection nor perfection are not comprehensible in the event observed, but in the observer because perfections, nor imperfection can be defined.

However, perfection can be acknowledged in the invisible and visible worlds by awareness of unconditional, and unaltering Principles and Patterns governing all known worlds in consistency. And although one can mathematically reach of point of origin from beginning and ending with the effect of math, never can a true reality of the math, nor theories be confirmed as perfect or imperfect because:

One may simulate rain, but no one will get wet. No scientific evidence of cause or logic for existence to exist has ever been laid out by any man beyond theories..
Your point is well-taken and a timely reminder of how my little generalizations can lead to something somewhat absurd.

Still, in the context of the Hawking discussion, the idea of the role of imperfection in cosmology is fascinating. There are consequences for both perfection and the lack thereof, and not all of them are untoward.

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Still, in the context of the Hawking discussion, the idea of the role of imperfection in cosmology is fascinating. There are consequences for both perfection and the lack thereof, and not all of them are untoward.
I agree especially after exploying Hawkin & Susskin's project concerning their opposite view dealing with black holes, and how "the string theory" came to be.

Also find interesting the theory of giving a machine[s] a consciousness.
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jufa wrote: Also find interesting the theory of giving a machine[s] a consciousness.
Do you think they can do it for us, too?
Once in a while a door opens, and let's in the future. --- Graham Greene

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CarmelaBear wrote:
jufa wrote: Also find interesting the theory of giving a machine[s] a consciousness.
Do you think they can do it for us, too?
Ha! Ha! I don't know about you, but I know I have been over-programmed :idea:
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Ahh....you've been programmed, eh? :shock:

Not me. I'm a virgin.

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CarmelaBear wrote: The individual shadow may seem to be a burden. The collective shadow is a real terror.
So true, there should be a way to integrate certain concepts of Analytical
Psychology into highschool curriculum :(

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Do you have a reference for those of us who are interested in learning more about Analytical Psychology?

It's been years since I've heard the term. Tx, Ercan.

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CarmelaBear wrote:Do you have a reference for those of us who are interested in learning more about Analytical Psychology?

It's been years since I've heard the term. Tx, Ercan.

:?:
No, there's nothing yet for highschool students
but I'm planning to write an introductory book;
Can you wait a little? :-)

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Post by jonsjourney »

This has some basic info Carmella...

http://iaap.org/
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CarmelaBear wrote:Do you have a reference for those of us who are interested in learning more about Analytical Psychology?

It's been years since I've heard the term. Tx, Ercan.

:?:
Carmela,
I thought that you're joking -with all the wisdom you've so gracefully put in that quote;
so I wanted to answer a little humorously. Sorry, if you're serious.
My interest for Analytical Psychology started with Dimitri Halley videos that I watched
on Youtube; few people can explain Jungian ideas better - may be except Cindy of
Jung forums.
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I was surprised, too, Carmela, to learn that you've yet to study Jung. Perhaps you'd be interested in my Jungian Starter Kit. :lol:

http://www.jcf.org/new/forum/viewtopic. ... 4574#64574

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Thank you, everyone. I've got my work cut out for me.

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This has been very interesting to me as well. I've studied Jung for the past 20 years. I have many friends who are Jungian analysts, yet, I've always heard Jung's psychology discussed as Depth Psychology. I wonder if this is because it was called Analytical Psychology in Europe, originally, and is now, here in the US called Depth Psychology.

A conundrum!

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Hi, Persephone.

Depth psychology refers to various psychological theories and practices that focus on both consciousness and the unconscious (psychic depths). Jung and Freud were depth psychologists, of course, and Hillman, for example. Also, the country of origin has no bearing.

Cool screen name, by the way, Persephonespring. :)

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Post by Persephonespring »

Thanks, Cindy.

I spoke with a friend who is an analyst yesterday. She said that her PH.D., is in Analytical Psychology, she studied Jung in Zurich. She also said that both Analytical and Depth are spoken of in Europe and in the US.

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